F. Debouck (Université de Lyon) : "Nous transformerons la Comue actuelle vers un nouveau statut juridique"

Dubuque (University of Lyon): “We will transform the existing list into a new legal status”

After several failures at the Lyon site, it announced a “profound transformation of the COMUE system until the end of 2023”. What will be the main changes?



Comue reached a dead end with three main difficulties. On the one hand, the loss of meaning. The idea was to build a target university as a prep before a large institution. We thought we would make a castle that we would both be a part of, but we were wrong. This project is dead and the state no longer supports it, I have withdrawn Idex.

On the other hand, the laws are poorly drafted. They were subjected to criticism, 52 appeals, and two years of interim administration. In addition to the loss of meaning, we had permission to command by a temporary administrator whose job it was not to develop the object but merely to revive it.

Finally, Covid and its back-to-back confinement have caused videoconferencing and staff at home. As a result, we were in the dark. I came to the presidency of this committee with a desire to restore order. I will make major structural changes: redefine Comue’s goals, redefine projects and their surroundings, as well as participants, and find the right economic model Since we lost funding for Idex.

I came to the presidency of this committee with a desire to restore order.

It will also be necessary to find the right legal structure. By the end of 2022, I want a clear project on these points. The first six months will be devoted to converting the existing list to the new legal status.

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Comue de Lyon members will evolve then?

It would already be necessary to ask the question to the actors to make some adjustments. Affiliates may become members and members may become partners. Maybe other actors can join us, I have a request from Cesi (Universities of higher education and vocational training) eg. Ira (Regional Institute of Management) can join us.

What will your state’s priorities be?

The state is in the contract phase with Lyon over the next five years, and in this context, we have three areas to develop. First of all, accompany and support enterprise strategies. Before, we were building, now we are in support. As for merging Leon 1 and Leon 2 for example, this is their project but we will support them. There are also other convergence projects in the world of engineering and this format is imagined by Comue.

In addition, carry and drive things of common interest. These will be activities to bring science and society together, and one to promote entrepreneurship. We will also coordinate the construction work, the Izly Student Card for all institutions, and the Student Life Master Plan.

Finally, promote Lyon-Saint Etienne, which represents 250 players in higher education and 230,000 students. The site is very proud of all its schools. There are few Comue as great as these. Even Paris-Saclay University has fewer players around the table, even though they are prestigious and powerful players.

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What are Comue Université de Lyon’s upcoming projects?

Future projects are also shaped around three axes. On the one hand, we want to understand. Players approach, such as the Universities of Lyon 1 and Lyon 2, or an upcoming engineering project. Comue plays the role of urban planner in relation to these constructions. We must also take care of the common property: we make the paths that connect the different constructions, think about the things in common …

On the other hand, we are leading a major environmental transformation project. All institutions are aware of Earth Transgression Day. Taking advantage of his savings bank only once, you have to rebuild a lifestyle. I would like Comue to implement a major transition coordination project towards sustainable development policy. We need to rethink our model and avoid green bleaching. Each school principal took on a project, and the director of the ENTPE (School of Sustainable Regional Development), an institution under the Ministry of the Environment, will coordinate the relocation plans for the site. There will also certainly be a large real estate project so that the entire Lyon-Saint-Etienne site will meet the Paris Conventions within ten years. The university should be exemplary in this subject.

Finally, we want to encourage initiatives. We listen to too many actors We should offer them invitations to projects that suit them and, if necessary, support their response.

What will be the consequences of merging Lyon 1 and Lyon 2 at the University of Lyon? After the failure of Idex, are you optimistic about achieving this project scheduled for 2024?

This is a recent project that was launched three months ago. I see a huge impact for a new project, which is proving to be a good idea. The approximation between Lyon 2 and Lyon 3 raises questions because some departments at these two universities have similar subjects, but this is not the case for Lyon 1 and Lyon 2, which are more complementary.

I would like Comue to implement a major transition coordination project towards sustainable development policy.

Will they be ready for January 2024? We can only wish them even if the trip was long. The deadline is short but realistic. It is an act of dialogue and harmonization of practices and work… which leads to concerns among employees. All this should be expected. We see them every Tuesday morning and they give us feedback on their progress. When they want us to accompany them, which has not yet happened, Comue will be on their side. It is indeed a project of the site that has been piloted by the two institutions and the entire community is lending their support.

Will joint courses at several Comue institutions see the light of day at the start of the 2022 school year?

If Comue Coordination of the offer of training and support for the creation of new interdisciplinary diplomas, the purpose of which will not be the issuance of national certificates. This new direction is a major component of our rebuilding.

in the coming months, We want to build professors supported by several institutions. We still have to decide on institutions and topics. We can imagine new formations in which many members are represented. For example, we can take the resources of Lyon 1 and Lyon 2, which are supported by the Conservatory of Music, by an engineering school … The wealth of training on the site is so great that the world of possibilities is open.

Como Lyon University

The University of Lyon is a group of universities and institutions (Comue) with 11 members and 24 associates in Lyon and Saint-Étienne.
Coordinates and manages major structuring projects on behalf of site organizations on three axes: Contribute to the creation of an attractive and responsible university center serving students, teachers, researchers and staff; Suggest areas of training and research in line with changes in society; and strengthening the Lyon-Saint-Etienne region in cooperation with all its stakeholders.
Members :
University Claude Bernard Lyon 1, University Lumière-Lyon 2, University of Jean Moulin-Lyon 3, University of Jean Monnet-Saint-Etienne, ENS de Lyon, Ecole Centrale de Lyon, INSA de Lyon, Sciences Po Lyon, VetAgro Sup, National School of Works State Public, National School of Engineers of Saint-Etienne, CNRS.

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